Obviously we'd have to take the following idea to higher places than this talk page, but wouldn't it make greater sense to adjust the infobox to be be more compatible with the way cast are treated by the show itself? There's a section further up which discusses this, but basically you just need to use your imagination. In reality, the bees are indeed disappearing." Now I'm confused! Turn Left had this before the credits, so the finale must be a two-parter. Without the Doctor, the whole world is in ruin, and a mysterious blondetries to warn Donna of the oncoming darkness... Now a simple refugee, Donna is the only one who can undo the damage. Episode 11 : Turn Left. Individuals associated with the franchise. 4 The Sontaran Stratagem. Eric Shane Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss season 4 episode 11 Turn LeftVote in our polls and see certain Blind Wave videos early!! The articles for The Stolen Earth and Journey's End show the episodes as a two parter (202a and 202b), as this episode continues into The Stolen Earth shouldn't Turn Left be 201a and the following episodes 201b and 201c? Because there's a dispute, we should see what the consensus is on this matter. The episode then transitioned into the credits and closing theme. If I might add, I think that arguing a point without citation is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. We do not get to connect the dots, but await someone who connects them for us, so we can blame them when/if they are wrong. RTD said in the latest DWM that whether the finale comprises of two or three episodes is a grey area which is dependent on both viewer choice and watching the episodes. Information about locations used in the Doctor Who story Turn Left(DW), from The Locations Guide to Doctor Who, Torchwood, and the Sarah Jane Adventures. (Do we even know that Shan Shen is the name of the planet, rather than an area or country or city? I can't remember.) Wiki is a technology we're using to construct an encyclopedia, it isn't necessarily the only form in which the encyclopedia will be used. Advertisement. I just keep my head down during those two-parter or three-parter arguments - I leave that for the viewers and DWM to decide. Andy5421 (talk) 05:10, 21 December 2009 (UTC), I removed it. 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Perhaps it would be prudent to add an additional field titled "starring". --Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The 14:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC), So... does Turn Left segue directly into Series Four's final two epic episodes, as Utopia did last year? --Dr Archeville (talk) 04:26, 19 July 2008 (UTC), I noticed the silly "cn" tag on Billie for a companion because she was "not billed as companion; billed as episode star" - can I just point out that that is the same for Jack Harkness in Utopia/sound odf Drums/Last of Time Lords, and Martha in Sontaran stratagem/poison sky/ doctor's Daughter (talk) 19:00, 21 July 2008 (UTC), In Turn Left, 60 million Americans are disintegrated into Adipose. Does it, sir? As far as I understood it, the phrase 'Bad Wolf' simply was an afirmation to the Doctor that the information about the end of the universe was genuine. Please comment. I'm almost sure the correct term would be Sino-planet. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 17:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC), I added the title/description 'Additional Star' to the Infobox template so that we know that Rose is not a companion in this episode. Her lips looked very very full...Totally not relevant to improving article though (talk) 03:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC), The "lisp" was mentioned by the Metro newspaper's TV reviewer this morning: don't know if it's worth noting though. Last Alteration: Sunday 07 April 2013. Thanks This is a major plot issue with this episode.--BruceGrubb (talk) 04:29, 19 September 2009 (UTC), well it is a 45-minute show(1hr minus commercials). Just wondered if this was notable enough to be mentioned. All rights go to the BBC. "You'll just have to keep watching til the very last second. Everyone feel better? It was the fourth-most-watched programme of the week, the highest position a regular episode of Doctor Who had ever achieved to that point: the 2007 Christmas special "Voyage of the Damned" was the second-most-watched television program on Christmas Day; and "The Stolen Earth" and "Journey's End" were second and first, respective… Eagyle (talk) 19:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC) 20:48 Standard GMT 21/06/08, The Monster File is a video on the official website with Captain Jack telling people about the monsters that appeared in the episode that just aired. Starring: Catherine Tate, David Tennant, Billie Piper, Freema Agyeman, John Barrowman. Sceptre (talk) 18:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC). The only explanation I can think of is: at the end, the Doctor says that when the time beetle changes events, the universe usually compensates around it. The one where Rose returns and we find out what the universe's like without the Doctor in it. Five reviews seems to be the sweet spot for this episode, and we already have one. Because I think that should be mentioned- cause he's a great character. ~~, My case is above for it being a three parter - furthermore, it's not just the ending, but what I would call a major part of the plot line of the episode has yet to be concluded. Sceptre (talk) 14:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC), After Donna materialises in Sutton Court, Chiswick, she realises she cannot directly influence herself at the junction; instead, she causes a traffic jam by stepping in front of a haulage truck. A page for describing Recap: Doctor Who S30 E11 "Turn Left". Save. In Turn left, the explosion merely destroys London. I don't think we have enough info at this time to warrant such an inclusion. If someone has the source information that claims to list her as a companion, please add it. On Call). (talk) 13:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC), Is it not, in any way, related to the time reapers from "Father's Day"? As well as clearly showing what we're referring to before the link is clicked, this style translates well into hard copy. (talk) 22:51, 27 June 2008 (UTC), I wondered about that too. I made the following changes: When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs. TV Doctor Who Recap. (talk) 07:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC), As the citation does not note Billie Piper as a Companion in the accompanying citation but instead as a guest (star), she has been re-added to the list of other guest stars. 7/18/08 9:35PM • Filed to: TV. I just saw the ep on the Sci-Fi Channel (which has been known to "trim" eps before) and none of those three appeared. Which means no need for the 27 planets. Series 4: 11. --. Check the behind the scenes section, the revision history and discussion page for additional comments on this article's title. OpinionPerson (talk) 20:58, 24 June 2008 (UTC), As Billie Piper is not a guest star and there is no consensus as to if she's a companion (the BBC website does backup the claim...) I've added an additional field: additional stars. So I think that because the BBC lists her as a companion for this series and because she is included in the opening credits she must be a companion. II marque aussi la première réapparition majeure de Rose Tyler après de courtes apparitions le long de la saison. Subtitles Found! Find trailers, reviews, synopsis, awards and cast information for Doctor Who : Turn Left (2008) - Graeme Harper on AllMovie - The established timeline unravels after Donna… — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mistoop (talk • contribs) 12:34, 18 April 2015 (UTC). Prev Next View All . 11. All rights go to the BBC. Turn Left ou Le Choix de Donna en français est le onzième épisode de la saison 30 (saison 4 de la nouvelle série) de Doctor Who.Il s'agit du premier épisode dit "Doctor-lite" (dans lequel le Docteur n'est pas au premier plan) à être centré sur le compagnon du Docteur. ~~, If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with, If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with, This page was last edited on 26 June 2018, at 17:52. Aridd (talk) 12:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC), Do we know whether "Shan Shen" means anything? Summary: While attending a carnival on the Chino-planet of Shan Shen, Donna is cajoled into having her fortune read, where her past is carefully examined. For the third time, I've reverted out the listing of Piper as Companion. It's a two parter, hence the "next time", not "to be continued" caption. "Turn Left" is a title based upon conjecture. ", She doesn't even see or talk to the Doctor. It's Doctor Who after all, it's not Star Trek; it's bordering on fantasy and not really meant to be taken all that seriously I shouldn't think. The Doctor and the Ponds puzzle an unlikely invasion of Earth, as millions of sinister black cubes arrive overnight, almost like presents falling from the sky. Target to complete w/o copyediting: 28th. Homoaffectional (talk) 22:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC). We are not the Doctor Who exclusive revelations site, and should never, ever become such. As the following episode, The Stolen Earth notes the FIRST time that ""also starring" is used, we now know that unless otherwise listed, folk are simply guest stars. Upload subtitles. I think I would find it confusing seeing further episodes without seeing this one first. Because Dalek Caan never engaged the emergency temporal shift, then he couldn't rescue Davros. Which means the volcano erupted all by itself, as it was supposed to. Some categorisation may be based upon conjecture. i'll delete this section from the talk page when i get an answer.--Numberwang (talk) 12:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC), When the UNIT soldier reports that the doctor is dead, is that greyhound 40/ Ross? ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 10:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC), If the BBC put her in the titles, that's a strong indication that they consider her a "companion", per se, in the given episode. --Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The 13:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC). If it's because it was especially praised, that should be mentioned in the opening sentence of that paragraph. Turn Left. 13. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. (WC: U.N.I.T. I can't see any other reason why he'd say "It's happening again". ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 19:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC). It is a 2 parter like Bad Wolf - PotW and AoG-Doomsday. Matthew (talk) 17:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC) This is very confusing. OpinionPerson (talk) 19:33, 25 June 2008 (UTC), The source currently listed does not support her as being a companion. You could make an argument that "The Doctor's Daughter" is part of a three-parter, by the same logic. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. I agree by the same argument. (talk) 13:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC), It's bad style to conceal the names of articles in links to events, so I suggest that instead of the form "[[article name|phrase describing event in alternative timeline]]" we stick to "phrase describing event in alternative timeline ([[article name]])". There is absolutely, positively NO reason for us to rush on this. But what are they, what’s inside them and most importantly, who sent them? Sceptre (talk) 09:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC). I'm not sure whether it counts for anything, but this week's TV Times (21st - 27th) says that it is a three-parter. The Doctor new Rose had given it because no one else other than Rose would've used that term. I know this isn't the place for it, but I didn't start it, so I should probably end it. Ophois (talk) 20:52, 20 July 2008 (UTC), Should it be worth mentioning that since the Doctor wasn't around to save Earth from the Pyroviles on August 24, 79 ("Fires of Pompeii") that humanity would be extinct by Donna's time?-- (talk) 05:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC), "Sylvia Noble mentions that the bees are disappearing, which has been mentioned by Donna in "Partners in Crime", "Planet of the Ood" and "The Unicorn and the Wasp". After all, the adipose only took 60 million Americans (and we all know there's a hell of a lot more than 60 million fat Americans), so there must have been some kind of disaster, the Daleks and their army were clearly caught up in it. Just a guest star. Cast Recurring Billy / William Hartnell • Patrick Troughton • Tom Baker • Lalla Ward • Nerys Hughes • Brian Blessed • Nicholas Briggs • Lisa Bowerman • Paul McGann • David Tennant • Miles Richardson • Richard E Grant • Billie Piper • Thomas Grant • Ayesha Antoine • David Ames • Matt Smith • John Hurt • Peter Capaldi • David Bradley Just as a guess, what's the Chinese for "Bad Wolf"? (talk) 23:21, 27 June 2008 (UTC). Series Four. AKA: Doctor Who Christmas Special 2011, Doctor Who, Dr. Who, The Haunting of Villa Diodati, Torchwood "Maybe," Russell intones, his face partly wreathed in enigma by a swirling time vortex. Doctor Who: Turn Left Prequel Comic: ... Set before Turn Left as indicated by the word prequel in the title. ╟─TreasuryTag╬contribs─╢ 10:22, 4 July 2008 (UTC), The summary says Jack, Gwen and Ianto stopped the Sontarans, but Gwen & Ianto were killed and Jack was stranded on Sontar. Series Overview; 1 Partners In Crime. In late 2020, a Doctor Who fan finished an episode of Doctor Who. David Tennant, Catherine Tate, Billie Piper, Bernard Cribbins. --SoWhy Talk 21:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC), It seems to meet the C-class criteria to me. B+ "Turn Left" Episode. 2 The Fires Of Pompeii. Real world information should not enter into this. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. See also DWM397, and the episode's commentary. "Turn Left" marks the first episode of Russell Davies' epic three-part finale for Season 4 of Doctor Who. Seems simple and fair to me. Target for FAC: 31st. We are an encyclopedia, and as such, we await citable information. As Piper is preggers and getting more 'on the nest', that is going to introduce an interesting plot twist that I am almost positive the Who-team of writers are not aiming for. Which means Pyrovilia is never taken, which means the Pyrovilians can go home and leave Earth to it's own devices. Done and dusted. This bit has since been removed from the Continuity section by user Masem, but I'd like to point out that since the premise behind this whole episode was another scheme "courtesy" of The Trickster, the last time he tried something like this, he himself said that he "turned away" all the invasions that were unaccounted for in that episode. ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 18:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC), It does not end with "To Be Continued", so unlike Utopia to LotTL, it is NOT a three-parter. This episode is unprecedented in that this episode focuses a companion rather than the doctor at all. Pdb781 (talk) 22:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC), Why don't we just have a rule that if they are in the opening credits they are listed as a companion, and if they're not we don't? On an alien planet, Donna meets a fortune teller, who launches her into a world based on one question: "What would happen if Donna never met the Tenth Doctor?" I have just modified 3 external links on Turn Left (Doctor Who). All "Multi-parts" have the "next time" clip at the end of the credits to prevent spoilers. The one thing I and several other fans have wondered is if the Doctor died in "The Runaway Bride" then who saved the Earth in "Fires of Pompeii"? This is a version of Turn Left that exists within the Doctor's universe. Ophois (talk) 06:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC), In the scene where the Doctor's body is being put in the back of the ambulance, the sonic screwdriver drops from his hand and the usual sheen appears to dim, as if the Doctor's death affected it also; it's already been established that the Doctor and his TARDIS have a telepathic bond, and the screwdriver is ostensibly made from the TARDIS or technology within it. Is there a reason for this? but can anybody tell me the name of the music that is playing just before donna gets sent back in time? ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 19:04, 21 June 2008 (UTC), This is fairly trivial, but if you watch the monster file about the trickster's brigade, at 2:55 on the game board, to the top right of the tile stating "choose wisely" there is a tile with "bad wolf" on it. Doctor Who. Cast: David Tennant - Catherine Tate - Billie Piper - Bernard Cribbins - Jacqueline King. The final scene ended when a bell was heard, and a female character asked the Doctor what was "Bad Wolf", and he responded by saying it was "the end of the universe". Article opening: why's there a big chunk of info on its reception? This statement is currently included in the continuity section. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 15:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC), Really Rose is a companion of a companion. In my opinion it's a three-parter, but Russell T. Davies says it may or may not be a three-parter depending on how you look at it. Which means no reality bomb. Other people's thoughts? Alienturnedhuman (talk) 17:02, 28 June 2008 (UTC). Also, the production codes suggest that Turn Left is the prologue for the finale, which is The Stolen Earth and Journey's End. But in Partners in Crime, Foster only accelerated the process that far because the Doctor and Donna got too close to her operations. The BBC has never (to my knowledge) used the term 'companion' in credits, yet we have such an entry in the infobox. In concentration camps, maybe? As she dies, Rose whispers two words for her to relay to the Doctor: "Bad Wolf.". They can only show so much of the Doctor's presence(or lack thereof) and the results. Radical AdZ (talk) 18:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC), The final viewing figure (including time shifting) of 8.09m is over a million more than the initially reported "overnight" figure of 7 million, which appears more than normal. Turn Left a fost al unsprezecelea episod din Seria 4 din Doctor Who. RTD had said it can be either, and I personally think that the evidence points towards three-parts. How can Donna relay the words to the Doctor if she's dead? B/C the doctor and Martha are dead, then they cannot interfere with the Daleks plan to take over Manhattan (presumably the Daleks plan was stopped by whatever disaster befell America and made it so that there were only 60 million fat Americans for the Adipose to take). TV Reviews All of our TV reviews in one convenient place. Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks, Doctor Who: The Novelisation of the Hit TV Movie, Iris Wildthyme & the Many-Tentacled Menace, The Fabulously Priceless Baubles of the Dalek Supreme, Iris Wildthyme's Fabric of Time Itself (MIAOW), Iris Wildthme's Wheezing, Groaning Enigma, https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Turn_Left?oldid=3073846. No, they are not. 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